Humans in Wolves clothing - how do you envision shared future which doesn't exclude anybody.

About a month ago person name Iman Hijjo joined mepeace.org a social network similar of iPeace. Iman Hijjo, the infant girl who was killed by the Israeli shelling of Gaza on May 7th 2001..

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Childhood
Three small dreams, alone
pass through the night
searching for a house
the moment that the shell
pulverised the child's heart

by Ibrahim Nasrallah
source: http://www.sakakini.org/literature/inasrallah.htm
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The avatar posted very hard to watch images of Palestinians victims of the occupation. After some time the user was banned and it was clear it does not respect the community.

The person who run this user was apparently very happy to prove the point that mepeace.org did not tolerate his views, will he do the same in iPeace?

As some of the member here may be offended from the text I copied from other site, please avoid any Retaliation. I copied it to show the different views of people on the activity in peace oriented social network and allow us to focus of how we transcend and include this kind of aggressive attack who wish to destroy instead of bringing their perspectives and working with us to create a future that include us all. because the one who did this and wrote the post bellow cannot be excluded and is part of our future.

The last time I checked The original post Wolves in sheep clothing removed from its place.So we should not relate this text that I quoted to any real person just as example of expression of resistance.


I ask no personal attacks on the one who wrote this or me or any one who comment here, no images. just observe are you seeing Humans in Wolves clothing or Wolves in sheep clothing?


please tell me how do you envision shared future which doesn't exclude anybody?

Thank you

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John: I am puzzled by the 'humans in wolves' clothing' reference, and would like to ask Neri just exactly who he was thinking of when he wrote it.

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John,

In some sense all what I am saying is in the name.

The original post name "Wolves in sheep clothing" which is a well known and use human metaphor we all share. (and I will not be surprised to find that the core of this metaphor is Arab). This metaphor link to the images of evil creatures who are hiding under sheep skin. this is a very strong claim that there are people who are not honest to be a peaceful sheep and the actually wolves who seek prey.

In the title I selected here "Humans in Wolves clothing" I am suggesting to use the metaphor one step further and recognize that these people who we think of as wolves are human under it so we can work with them to create our mutual future.

I wish the best and seek ways to work with people who are sure I am a wolves and I see that they are humans as me. I forgive them not to recognize that and love them as my brothers.

for them it will continue to be a "Wolves in sheep clothing" no matter what I say or do since they are "Humans in Wolves clothing" who do not recognize my human core same bit of heart same metaphors.

It is sad, but full of hope since are all "in clothing" of our dogma and self righteousness fail to recognize somethings in us. we are all imperfect humans who need to solve this fucking hard puzzle that kills in us. Any true honest human will tell you that any solution for human problem must includes everybody with no exceptions in any body's clothing can solve.

I have no doubt in my mind that we are all "Humans in SOMETHING clothing" and as Humans we will think and act for our share basic identity,


This is why I choose this title.


Thank you for asking.
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original post (that was deleted) which give us a glimpse about how some people see the Israeli Palestinian conflict :

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Wolves in sheep clothing

Iman Hijjo, murdered in her mother's arms @ 4 months old

Wolves in sheep clothing

Yesterday, I joined the very ominous sinister site “mepeace” using the name Iman (above photo); I posted one link to the film “The Iron Wall” and only 10 pictures!!
Within less than 15 hours I was totally banned, my IP was blocked, and I can’t access the site even to read!

Now, to those blood-soaked criminals who come frothing with fake words of peace but get incensed and infuriated when they hear the word justice, I would say:

Masters of lies and dishonesty

I would like to see you talking to the Nazis who abused you without asking them to acknowledge their crimes

I would like to see how you respond to those who deny the holocaust

I would like to see you turning a blind eye to Hitler’s crimes and moving forward without asking for justice or compensation

Masters of terror and deceit

How do you want us to move on with out YOU acknowledging your crimes of theft, ethnic cleansing and genocide, yet you demand that the whole world acknowledges the crimes of Hitler against you?

Masters of arrogance and conceit

How could you deny our Catastrophe and your responsibility for it, yet insist and make sure that anyone who even doubts (let alone denies) the holocaust or the number six millions has to pay severely by imprisonment and loss of livelihood and even life?


Masters of mischief and evil doing

God had sent you many warnings; that you do not transgress or do mischief in the land, but your arrogance, self interest, greed and supremacy are blinding you from seeing the evil you are doing

Instead of acknowledging your crimes and establishing justice, you are still in a state of total denial, carried away with more crimes, more lies, and suppression of truth

Instead of repentance and accepting that you have wronged us, you try to silence our faint voices causing more deception, concealing the truth and sinking deeply in the abyss of immorality and wickedness


Your Jewishness, your self interest, your love of material gains and you drunkenness by power is what you worship now not the God of goodness, peace and justice

My warning to you now is the same warning given to your ancestors by many prophets and prophetic voices

You are descending deeper in the hole that you dug for yourselves by your evil deeds, your denial of truth, and by your inability to ask for forgiveness

The crimes that you have committed against us are indeed painful and agonizing, but it’s only done against our physical bodies, our souls are out of your reach and forever intact; however, it’s your own souls that you are disfiguring and destroying, if only you knew

Unfortunate, pitiable and deceived souls

You have lost your humanity and killed your own souls if only you could see

Unless and until you acknowledge your crimes and correct the wrongs you have committed there will be a dark bleak and desolate future awaiting for you

And this is a promise

Mischief makers

They cry peace, but what they mean is war; they scream freedom but what they mean is enslavement; they shout democracy but what they mean is democracy for their own kind.

The Quran describes such people whose words contradict their deeds:

“And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only. Are not they indeed the mischief-makers? But they perceive not. (2:11-12)”


WARNING

“And We gave (Clear) Warning to the Children of Israel in the Scripture, that twice would they do mischief on the earth and will become tyrants and behave insolently with extreme arrogance.” (17:4)

“When the first of the warnings came to pass, We sent against you Our servants of mighty prowess: They entered the very inmost parts of your homes; and it was a warning (completely) fulfilled.” (17:5)

“Afterwards, we will give you a turn over them, and will grant you an increase of wealth and children; we will give you the upper hand.” (17:6)

“If you do good, it will be for your own benefit, but if you do evil, it will be against your souls. When the prophecy of your second transgression will come to pass, sadness will cover your faces. They (your enemies) will enter the mosque as they did the first time, they will wipe out all the gains you had accomplished.” (17:7)

“It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if you revert to transgression, we will counter with retribution. We have designated hell as a final abode for those who conceal the truth.” (17:8)

The ONLY thing that could save you -arrogant zionists- from a bleak and painful future is to reverse your evil ways of oppression, arrogance and greed, and act like civilized human beings, with justice and compassion

But mischief makers perceive not
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NOTE: the post was real, but please do not try to inform us about its origin. Please look into the question of what unite us all.

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Dear friends,

The state of a person who see the world from a Wolves in sheep clothing is highly confrontational. it assume that some people are in denial and others are enlighten by truth. it devide the world to "good people" and "people who are Wolves in sheep clothing".

The way it expresses is by attacking this enemy of people thinking some time that the evil ways of the Wolves are the stronger ways and they themselves behave as Wolves bringing their interpretation to an extreme as they really feel attacked.

If any of you have time to go over the discussion here and see not only the people who are Human in Wolves clothing that are acting like wolves with pure belief that they are doing good.

NOTE: the post was real, but please do not try to inform us about its origin. Please look into the question of what unite us all.


"Beware of false prophets who come in sheep's clothing but are inwardly ravenous wolves." Mathew 7:15.10 "And many false prophets will come and decieve many people" Mathew 24:11
Neri,

Are you a Christian missionary, really? It wouldn't surprise me too much though...
Shaul,

I respect all religions same as the person who wrote the original post under that name.
The text of Mathew started from within Palestine so it has connection to Palestinians, Muslems Cristians and Jews.

You not need to be Cristian to respect and to bring a Cristian wisdom metaphors nor you need to be Muslim or Jew to see the value of the metaphor Human in Wolves clothing

Please stop this personal attacks as it not suitable to the network we are in. we know we disagree on many issues we not need to attack each other.

Do you think that there are Human in Wolves clothing among us?
Dear Eva,

I ask you again to respect this post request

the post was real, but please do not try to inform us about its origin. Please look into the question of what unite us all.

As it would be wonderful to talk with Nahida, the ones who insisting to connect my message to her is you. I have nothing personal to Nahida here. The text I copied here was published publicly and there are many other such posts.I do not claim ownership on it. I brought is as example of the kind of behavior that consider some people to be Wolves in sheep clothing that justifies rude personal attacks that try to hide the deep truth that we are all, includeing you, Mary, Shaul, Nahida and myself are Human in Wolves clothing

please respect others.

Thank you.
Thank you,

you said that many times, thank you for sharing.
Mary Thank you,

you said that many times, thank you for sharing.
"Man is a wolf to man", Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz.
Shaul said:
"Man is a wolf to man", Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz.

Yes Shaul, do take this "Man is a wolf to man" and manifest it here, just because you are not-perfect human like me.

big hug.
Thank you Michael,

It is a general issue, as it is part of human conflict that people get hurt, people are killed and we have no way to bring them back. conflict is not fair and its outcome is pain.

I do too think there is a lot of relevant wisdom in the path of the Buddhists I know of some groups who work in Palestine and Israel, but it needs us all to acquire the Big Heart of the Buddha for including and absorbing all that pain.



Michael John Smith said:
Such pain. Such hurt. When war engulfed the lands of former Yugoslavia where I have made my home, the tiny group of Buddhists in Belgrade evoked the female deities and bodhisattvas. They chanted and chanted. They could do no more. Blind hate surrounded them. The group survived and there is now peace in the Balkans. The pain remains however and some of the hate remains. It was not all consumed. There is a man on this network, a young Buddhist from Bosnia. Just his presence here and in this world gives me hope. All the Jews and Arabs on this network also give me hope. And not just hope but nourishment for my own practice, for developing my own inner-peace to pass on.
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