Humans in Wolves clothing - how do you envision shared future which doesn't exclude anybody.
About a month ago person name Iman Hijjo joined mepeace.org a social network similar of iPeace. Iman Hijjo, the infant girl who was killed by the Israeli shelling of Gaza on May 7th 2001..
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Childhood
Three small dreams, alone
pass through the night
searching for a house
the moment that the shell
pulverised the child's heart
by Ibrahim Nasrallah
source: http://www.sakakini.org/literature/inasrallah.htm
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The avatar posted very hard to watch images of Palestinians victims of the occupation. After some time the user was banned and it was clear it does not respect the community.
The person who run this user was apparently very happy to prove the point that mepeace.org did not tolerate his views, will he do the same in iPeace?
As some of the member here may be offended from the text I copied from other site, please avoid any Retaliation. I copied it to show the different views of people on the activity in peace oriented social network and allow us to focus of how we transcend and include this kind of aggressive attack who wish to destroy instead of bringing their perspectives and working with us to create a future that include us all. because the one who did this and wrote the post bellow cannot be excluded and is part of our future.
The last time I checked The original post Wolves in sheep clothing removed from its place.So we should not relate this text that I quoted to any real person just as example of expression of resistance.
I ask no personal attacks on the one who wrote this or me or any one who comment here, no images. just observe are you seeing Humans in Wolves clothing or Wolves in sheep clothing?
please tell me how do you envision shared future which doesn't exclude anybody?
Thank you
John: I am puzzled by the 'humans in wolves' clothing' reference, and would like to ask Neri just exactly who he was thinking of when he wrote it.
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John,
In some sense all what I am saying is in the name.
The original post name "Wolves in sheep clothing" which is a well known and use human metaphor we all share. (and I will not be surprised to find that the core of this metaphor is Arab). This metaphor link to the images of evil creatures who are hiding under sheep skin. this is a very strong claim that there are people who are not honest to be a peaceful sheep and the actually wolves who seek prey.
In the title I selected here "Humans in Wolves clothing" I am suggesting to use the metaphor one step further and recognize that these people who we think of as wolves are human under it so we can work with them to create our mutual future.
I wish the best and seek ways to work with people who are sure I am a wolves and I see that they are humans as me. I forgive them not to recognize that and love them as my brothers.
for them it will continue to be a "Wolves in sheep clothing" no matter what I say or do since they are "Humans in Wolves clothing" who do not recognize my human core same bit of heart same metaphors.
It is sad, but full of hope since are all "in clothing" of our dogma and self righteousness fail to recognize somethings in us. we are all imperfect humans who need to solve this fucking hard puzzle that kills in us. Any true honest human will tell you that any solution for human problem must includes everybody with no exceptions in any body's clothing can solve.
I have no doubt in my mind that we are all "Humans in SOMETHING clothing" and as Humans we will think and act for our share basic identity,
This is why I choose this title.
Thank you for asking.
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original post (that was deleted) which give us a glimpse about how some people see the Israeli Palestinian conflict :
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Wolves in sheep clothing
Iman Hijjo, murdered in her mother's arms @ 4 months old
Wolves in sheep clothing
Yesterday, I joined the very ominous sinister site “mepeace” using the name Iman (above photo); I posted one link to the film “The Iron Wall” and only 10 pictures!!
Within less than 15 hours I was totally banned, my IP was blocked, and I can’t access the site even to read!
Now, to those blood-soaked criminals who come frothing with fake words of peace but get incensed and infuriated when they hear the word justice, I would say:
Masters of lies and dishonesty
I would like to see you talking to the Nazis who abused you without asking them to acknowledge their crimes
I would like to see how you respond to those who deny the holocaust
I would like to see you turning a blind eye to Hitler’s crimes and moving forward without asking for justice or compensation
Masters of terror and deceit
How do you want us to move on with out YOU acknowledging your crimes of theft, ethnic cleansing and genocide, yet you demand that the whole world acknowledges the crimes of Hitler against you?
Masters of arrogance and conceit
How could you deny our Catastrophe and your responsibility for it, yet insist and make sure that anyone who even doubts (let alone denies) the holocaust or the number six millions has to pay severely by imprisonment and loss of livelihood and even life?
Masters of mischief and evil doing
God had sent you many warnings; that you do not transgress or do mischief in the land, but your arrogance, self interest, greed and supremacy are blinding you from seeing the evil you are doing
Instead of acknowledging your crimes and establishing justice, you are still in a state of total denial, carried away with more crimes, more lies, and suppression of truth
Instead of repentance and accepting that you have wronged us, you try to silence our faint voices causing more deception, concealing the truth and sinking deeply in the abyss of immorality and wickedness
Your Jewishness, your self interest, your love of material gains and you drunkenness by power is what you worship now not the God of goodness, peace and justice
My warning to you now is the same warning given to your ancestors by many prophets and prophetic voices
You are descending deeper in the hole that you dug for yourselves by your evil deeds, your denial of truth, and by your inability to ask for forgiveness
The crimes that you have committed against us are indeed painful and agonizing, but it’s only done against our physical bodies, our souls are out of your reach and forever intact; however, it’s your own souls that you are disfiguring and destroying, if only you knew
Unfortunate, pitiable and deceived souls
You have lost your humanity and killed your own souls if only you could see
Unless and until you acknowledge your crimes and correct the wrongs you have committed there will be a dark bleak and desolate future awaiting for you
And this is a promise
Mischief makers
They cry peace, but what they mean is war; they scream freedom but what they mean is enslavement; they shout democracy but what they mean is democracy for their own kind.
The Quran describes such people whose words contradict their deeds:
“And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only. Are not they indeed the mischief-makers? But they perceive not. (2:11-12)”
WARNING
“And We gave (Clear) Warning to the Children of Israel in the Scripture, that twice would they do mischief on the earth and will become tyrants and behave insolently with extreme arrogance.” (17:4)
“When the first of the warnings came to pass, We sent against you Our servants of mighty prowess: They entered the very inmost parts of your homes; and it was a warning (completely) fulfilled.” (17:5)
“Afterwards, we will give you a turn over them, and will grant you an increase of wealth and children; we will give you the upper hand.” (17:6)
“If you do good, it will be for your own benefit, but if you do evil, it will be against your souls. When the prophecy of your second transgression will come to pass, sadness will cover your faces. They (your enemies) will enter the mosque as they did the first time, they will wipe out all the gains you had accomplished.” (17:7)
“It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if you revert to transgression, we will counter with retribution. We have designated hell as a final abode for those who conceal the truth.” (17:8)
The ONLY thing that could save you -arrogant zionists- from a bleak and painful future is to reverse your evil ways of oppression, arrogance and greed, and act like civilized human beings, with justice and compassion
But mischief makers perceive not
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NOTE: the post was real, but please do not try to inform us about its origin. Please look into the question of what unite us all.
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Childhood
Three small dreams, alone
pass through the night
searching for a house
the moment that the shell
pulverised the child's heart
by Ibrahim Nasrallah
source: http://www.sakakini.org/literature/inasrallah.htm
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The avatar posted very hard to watch images of Palestinians victims of the occupation. After some time the user was banned and it was clear it does not respect the community.
The person who run this user was apparently very happy to prove the point that mepeace.org did not tolerate his views, will he do the same in iPeace?
As some of the member here may be offended from the text I copied from other site, please avoid any Retaliation. I copied it to show the different views of people on the activity in peace oriented social network and allow us to focus of how we transcend and include this kind of aggressive attack who wish to destroy instead of bringing their perspectives and working with us to create a future that include us all. because the one who did this and wrote the post bellow cannot be excluded and is part of our future.
The last time I checked The original post Wolves in sheep clothing removed from its place.So we should not relate this text that I quoted to any real person just as example of expression of resistance.
I ask no personal attacks on the one who wrote this or me or any one who comment here, no images. just observe are you seeing Humans in Wolves clothing or Wolves in sheep clothing?
please tell me how do you envision shared future which doesn't exclude anybody?
Thank you
John: I am puzzled by the 'humans in wolves' clothing' reference, and would like to ask Neri just exactly who he was thinking of when he wrote it.
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John,
In some sense all what I am saying is in the name.
The original post name "Wolves in sheep clothing" which is a well known and use human metaphor we all share. (and I will not be surprised to find that the core of this metaphor is Arab). This metaphor link to the images of evil creatures who are hiding under sheep skin. this is a very strong claim that there are people who are not honest to be a peaceful sheep and the actually wolves who seek prey.
In the title I selected here "Humans in Wolves clothing" I am suggesting to use the metaphor one step further and recognize that these people who we think of as wolves are human under it so we can work with them to create our mutual future.
I wish the best and seek ways to work with people who are sure I am a wolves and I see that they are humans as me. I forgive them not to recognize that and love them as my brothers.
for them it will continue to be a "Wolves in sheep clothing" no matter what I say or do since they are "Humans in Wolves clothing" who do not recognize my human core same bit of heart same metaphors.
It is sad, but full of hope since are all "in clothing" of our dogma and self righteousness fail to recognize somethings in us. we are all imperfect humans who need to solve this fucking hard puzzle that kills in us. Any true honest human will tell you that any solution for human problem must includes everybody with no exceptions in any body's clothing can solve.
I have no doubt in my mind that we are all "Humans in SOMETHING clothing" and as Humans we will think and act for our share basic identity,
This is why I choose this title.
Thank you for asking.
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original post (that was deleted) which give us a glimpse about how some people see the Israeli Palestinian conflict :
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Wolves in sheep clothing
Iman Hijjo, murdered in her mother's arms @ 4 months old
Wolves in sheep clothing
Yesterday, I joined the very ominous sinister site “mepeace” using the name Iman (above photo); I posted one link to the film “The Iron Wall” and only 10 pictures!!
Within less than 15 hours I was totally banned, my IP was blocked, and I can’t access the site even to read!
Now, to those blood-soaked criminals who come frothing with fake words of peace but get incensed and infuriated when they hear the word justice, I would say:
Masters of lies and dishonesty
I would like to see you talking to the Nazis who abused you without asking them to acknowledge their crimes
I would like to see how you respond to those who deny the holocaust
I would like to see you turning a blind eye to Hitler’s crimes and moving forward without asking for justice or compensation
Masters of terror and deceit
How do you want us to move on with out YOU acknowledging your crimes of theft, ethnic cleansing and genocide, yet you demand that the whole world acknowledges the crimes of Hitler against you?
Masters of arrogance and conceit
How could you deny our Catastrophe and your responsibility for it, yet insist and make sure that anyone who even doubts (let alone denies) the holocaust or the number six millions has to pay severely by imprisonment and loss of livelihood and even life?
Masters of mischief and evil doing
God had sent you many warnings; that you do not transgress or do mischief in the land, but your arrogance, self interest, greed and supremacy are blinding you from seeing the evil you are doing
Instead of acknowledging your crimes and establishing justice, you are still in a state of total denial, carried away with more crimes, more lies, and suppression of truth
Instead of repentance and accepting that you have wronged us, you try to silence our faint voices causing more deception, concealing the truth and sinking deeply in the abyss of immorality and wickedness
Your Jewishness, your self interest, your love of material gains and you drunkenness by power is what you worship now not the God of goodness, peace and justice
My warning to you now is the same warning given to your ancestors by many prophets and prophetic voices
You are descending deeper in the hole that you dug for yourselves by your evil deeds, your denial of truth, and by your inability to ask for forgiveness
The crimes that you have committed against us are indeed painful and agonizing, but it’s only done against our physical bodies, our souls are out of your reach and forever intact; however, it’s your own souls that you are disfiguring and destroying, if only you knew
Unfortunate, pitiable and deceived souls
You have lost your humanity and killed your own souls if only you could see
Unless and until you acknowledge your crimes and correct the wrongs you have committed there will be a dark bleak and desolate future awaiting for you
And this is a promise
Mischief makers
They cry peace, but what they mean is war; they scream freedom but what they mean is enslavement; they shout democracy but what they mean is democracy for their own kind.
The Quran describes such people whose words contradict their deeds:
“And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only. Are not they indeed the mischief-makers? But they perceive not. (2:11-12)”
WARNING
“And We gave (Clear) Warning to the Children of Israel in the Scripture, that twice would they do mischief on the earth and will become tyrants and behave insolently with extreme arrogance.” (17:4)
“When the first of the warnings came to pass, We sent against you Our servants of mighty prowess: They entered the very inmost parts of your homes; and it was a warning (completely) fulfilled.” (17:5)
“Afterwards, we will give you a turn over them, and will grant you an increase of wealth and children; we will give you the upper hand.” (17:6)
“If you do good, it will be for your own benefit, but if you do evil, it will be against your souls. When the prophecy of your second transgression will come to pass, sadness will cover your faces. They (your enemies) will enter the mosque as they did the first time, they will wipe out all the gains you had accomplished.” (17:7)
“It may be that your Lord will have mercy on you, but if you revert to transgression, we will counter with retribution. We have designated hell as a final abode for those who conceal the truth.” (17:8)
The ONLY thing that could save you -arrogant zionists- from a bleak and painful future is to reverse your evil ways of oppression, arrogance and greed, and act like civilized human beings, with justice and compassion
But mischief makers perceive not
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NOTE: the post was real, but please do not try to inform us about its origin. Please look into the question of what unite us all.
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Permalink Reply by Neri Bar-On on
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David,
I hope you'll find this relevant, recognizing that we are all Humans and even when some of us are in Wolves clothing open the option of forgiveness
David Califa said:David Califa said:I really don't think that anything interesting will come out of the thread. Why am I coming back to it?
I think that that's the last visit
I retract. I did come back. and I did find interest. It was silly to think that the thread has run its course.
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Sadly you missed the point of this post, it is funny that you act like a wolf when your human properties are so clear.
Thank you for strengthen my position it is valuable in the Peace day.
mary rizzo said:
Very often, and even in the Middle East, sometimes wolves are wolves.
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Matthew 17:5
Neri Bar-On said:Trust, refreshing trust, intuitive trust, authentic trust is needed between us, and all of us need to cooperatively unconditionally develop it here among us. it cannot be one sided nor it can be conditional, because this is the essence of trust
We need trust and recognize we are all within this one Rúach we are one,
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Dear Mary,
We do not agree on the content of peace, this is evident from this discussion and many other we did in the months that we know each other. Respect is to understand that you do not agree with the other side, but you give some space for his/her vision to mature.
If you read my comments here about Peace you will find that I claim that Peace is complex situation and Justice is part of it, but we should not reduce the meaning of Peace to simple equation with Justice. I do think that the Justice expressed by people who think that some of the Human here are wolves that cannot be trusted is childish and unuseful for creating Peace.
yes I know we disagree, but I expressing what I think, not what you think. and by doing that I do not attack you, nor hint to people that you are a wolf or any other creature that symbolize evil.
This is trust without condition that you are not pure evil, I will not trust my son in your hands, but I will trust you that you aim good. It means that I am open to work with you, while you unable to work with me because your concepts of justice, Peace and trust are so far away.
So who is right? who is the one that the readers should follow? my answer is simple, we need all to do the effort within us to see the human in everyone of us. The people who cannot do it are human too and cannot be excluded.
You probably have some other issues with me, please do not bring them to here, as I wish to propose good metaphor for peace and not demonstrate how some people fail to recognize such simple metaphors.
Big Hug,
Neri
mary rizzo said:Neri, peace is a very nice word. But it has to have content behind it, and telling people to give "unconditional" trust is insane. You see, you and I have children, and were we to tell them "you can trust anyone because we are all human and we all want the same things" will be very dangerous for them. Most of the very harmful people like paedophiles, pushers, pimps, etc., will say all kinds of things to break down the natural defense that people have to those who they don't know. They will say, "trust me", of course.
And, they will be smooth and convincing.
In the Middle East, how long have Israelis told Palestinians what is best for them? Since the beginning. They are supposed to trust that there will be no land grab, that they will respect international law, etc. They have again and again proven that they cannot be trusted.
Breaking down the resistance is not contributing to peace, but it certainly assures that Israel always has the balance of power.
You really have to learn the difference between peaceful coexistence in full respect, and a sort of enforced peace through telling Palestinians that they have to be nice and stop bothering you kind Israelis so much.
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Dear Mary,
This discussion emphasis is on different prespective people have.
From different perspective, people conclude the image of reality and when their image of reality tells them that there are Wolves, its hard to show them that these are Humans unless you invite them to look through other perspective too.
This post and its discussion are real live expression of the conflict that arise from different perspective. I propose here the perspective of integral reality where even the people who are in Sheep clothing and can be seen as in Wolf clothing are born naked as human and share the same human experience from different perspective. I argue that any Peace need to include us all with all our perspectives.
mary rizzo said:Please refrain from telling me what is useful or not for creating peace. I don't think you have the ability to know this, to be very frank.
I know you said "sadly, we have to realise that we have to give up seeking justice". Yes, you said this. It is funny, because if you had a child murdered or your home destroyed or taken, I wonder if you would think such a thought. In fact, you would be extremely determined that there be justice, so that vendetta could be avoided and you could be compensated in some small way for the losses you endured. I know many Palestinians, most of them writers, and the emphasis on justice is paramount. They state what their people need. Why not begin to accept that your telling people it's a lost cause and instead to work on "peace" is going to be interpreted by them as you flipping the bird at their needs and basic requirements, while YOURS are guaranteed, so of course, it's no problem for you to preach.
Of course I can't work with you, because we have an entirely different agenda! You want normalisation without any reasonable sacrifice and change on Israel's part, and I insist that resistance is the only way. The only thing Israel understands is when life gets complicated for them, and they want Palestinians to be so tired out and downtrodden that they will surrender to the second class or worse status just to get some years of peace. The Israelis can't tell Palestinians what to do, although they are convinced that they can!
I don't want ANYONE here to follow me! I am not a prophet, I am just a person who speaks my mind based on decades of activism, almost three of them, and along the road I have met and lost many, and that is how it is! I ain't looking for acolytes! I only expect people to think for themselves and to analyse scrupulously every argument they see, especially the most seductively deceptive and abstract ones.
You are there to protect your personal interests, and maybe some other things. Interests are of course at times valid, but they are not the primary metre of judgment for others. We have to be rational and objective. I have seen you justify Zionist crimes too often to think you are one to give advice to Palestinians and Palestine advocates.
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Permalink Reply by Heidi Little on
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These things come up for us in a time when all must be forgiven and released to the light so they may be reshaped into something more positive and sent back to support and nurture the mother and her human family.
We are all one.
Bad or good. Our collective conscious and our liberation depends on the people who can release these atrocity's, who can uplift the light, and move forward with clear vision and postive momentum.
You are not alone in the hard to comprehend stage of our developement of what we have done as a species and what must be done as a species.
Love
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You are right, I am not perfect and need to work on my reactions.
Thank you.
Neri
mary rizzo said:Look Neri,
I kind of think you don't even know what you say. To suggest, for instance, that you would not trust my son in your hands, doesn't that imply at some level that I have given some indication that children are not safe with me? I mean, this is merely one example of how it is impossible to have a linear discussion with you. You talking trust in an abstract way, and I say it is human nature to be wary of those who say "trust me", and give an example of those who harm our children the most. Not referring to you or me or anyone, but an example... What do you do? You in some manner insert into a discourse that I would be dangerous to your son, when I haven't given any indication that I am any such thing. So, you can trust those who say trust me and who you have no idea about, but then again YOU are making statements as if you wouldn't even trust me with your son. I promise I will never take him to the movies or babysit him, but this comment just struck me as mean and contradicting what you claim to be the NEED for humans, unconditional trust.
At this point, I withdraw from these useless conversations, and I wish you luck with trying to get across your point in a way that makes some sense and is relevant.
Neri Bar-On said:Dear Mary,
This discussion emphasis is on different prespective people have.
From different perspective, people conclude the image of reality and when their image of reality tells them that there are Wolves, its hard to show them that these are Humans unless you invite them to look through other perspective too.
This post and its discussion are real live expression of the conflict that arise from different perspective. I propose here the perspective of integral reality where even the people who are in Sheep clothing and can be seen as in Wolf clothing are born naked as human and share the same human experience from different perspective. I argue that any Peace need to include us all with all our perspectives.
mary rizzo said:Please refrain from telling me what is useful or not for creating peace. I don't think you have the ability to know this, to be very frank.
I know you said "sadly, we have to realise that we have to give up seeking justice". Yes, you said this. It is funny, because if you had a child murdered or your home destroyed or taken, I wonder if you would think such a thought. In fact, you would be extremely determined that there be justice, so that vendetta could be avoided and you could be compensated in some small way for the losses you endured. I know many Palestinians, most of them writers, and the emphasis on justice is paramount. They state what their people need. Why not begin to accept that your telling people it's a lost cause and instead to work on "peace" is going to be interpreted by them as you flipping the bird at their needs and basic requirements, while YOURS are guaranteed, so of course, it's no problem for you to preach.
Of course I can't work with you, because we have an entirely different agenda! You want normalisation without any reasonable sacrifice and change on Israel's part, and I insist that resistance is the only way. The only thing Israel understands is when life gets complicated for them, and they want Palestinians to be so tired out and downtrodden that they will surrender to the second class or worse status just to get some years of peace. The Israelis can't tell Palestinians what to do, although they are convinced that they can!
I don't want ANYONE here to follow me! I am not a prophet, I am just a person who speaks my mind based on decades of activism, almost three of them, and along the road I have met and lost many, and that is how it is! I ain't looking for acolytes! I only expect people to think for themselves and to analyse scrupulously every argument they see, especially the most seductively deceptive and abstract ones.
You are there to protect your personal interests, and maybe some other things. Interests are of course at times valid, but they are not the primary metre of judgment for others. We have to be rational and objective. I have seen you justify Zionist crimes too often to think you are one to give advice to Palestinians and Palestine advocates.
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Michael,
I think watching us "fighting" over ego and "face" is interesting but is not enough if we wish change. we need to work within and without, we need a "third" perspective because if you leave "two sides" to resolve the conflict you'll find that the "solution" is zero sum of one side take it all.
We all have the tendency to see "Wolves in sheep clothing" I think it is natural phenomena as it was needed when we were extraordinary monkeys 100,000 years ago. I think that our Human culture contain in our time a lot of the historic capacity to protect ourselves.
But we also can recognize that in the last 5,000 years we developed more and more components of our human culture that enable us to trust more and know more so we can recognize that we are all "Humans in anything clothing" and in our time it is more important to expose it because our historic survival tendencies are not working in our modern global world.
I think that 3rd angel view that come from the outside is essential for the Israelis and Palestinians to grow more trust in our ability to transform in a new reality that enable peace to emerge and sustained as a component in our culture.
Michael John Smith said:I think with this discussion we are once more witnessing the importance of face for the people of the Middle East, both the fear of losing face and the reaction to losing face. I feel I am having some control over situations simply by watching them but I realise this is also often not enough. I am finding this peace business a touch difficult to handle. I feel rather helpless. I am however encouraged by the enthusiasm for peace coming from you good people.
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Permalink Reply by almohand on
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palestine
iman hijjo
gaza
westren bank
what do think about every day somone killed by israel
but the palestine still have good lovely wonderfull peopleno one can be lik palestine
im palestine
im palestine
im palestine
im palestine
im palestine
im palestine
salam alekom
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Almohand ,
You are and deserve much better conditions.
What I am trying to say in this post is that all People are human under their national identity, as such I think we all responsible to push a change for the better future that will secure freedom and conditions for justice and peace.
almohand said:palestine
iman hijjo
gaza
westren bank
what do think about every day someone killed by Israel
but the Palestine still have good lovely wonderful people no one can be like palestine
im palestine
im palestine
im palestine
im palestine
im palestine
im palestine
salam alekom
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Permalink Reply by Chenae on
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The Dalai Lama says that it is very important to not confuse the Action with the Actor.We most oppose wrong action but if we become overwhelmed with hatred for the Actor we act only in the short term and become paralyzed.
How to keep our eyes wide open, our hearts wide open, and not become overwhelmed with the very real horror that many of our fellow beings are living is the first question. Many turn away. How do we include those who would kill us? But the Table of Peace can not just include those with who we agree.
I recieved a letter on the first day I joined this site from a man in Gaza who h ad just been held at a check point for 4 hours.he asked what I had done today to end this terrible occupation. I had to tell him I had done no direct action.
My life is very difficult at the moment. But I try to ground each day in Gratitude. I do not frame my day around where I can find fresh water. Many in this world are risking rape and murder to just obtain water to live.
As a Registered Nurse for many years, I do know the first hand reality of senseless violent death and pain. I have been covered in blood. I have cared for tortured children. But a recent reminder of the limitations of my experience living in the US was when, on the Fourth of July, I heard and daw fireworks. I assumed they were fireworks, I did not react with the fear of those who live in places where such sounds mean death. Years ago, a Vietnamese friend of mine dove screaming, trying to protect her children at the same sounds.
We walk in many different worlds, but we are all connected. We must try not to strike at those who would be our allies. Guilt and shame will only cause people to close. I often want to run screaming in the street, sreaming for the dead and the dying. But that would only help release my personal pain and not help them.
Below I offer you a poem I wrote last year. It talks of despair, but I hope helps to connect us so we can all coninue, enlarged, to change this world.
Bless
Chenae
Iraq Forecast Recalled
Tonight recalls the saddest day
The day before this -
War
Blood filled clouds disguised
as just a mountain sunny -
Day
Maddened by a future posed
A storm of grief, the morn -
Forecast
One hundred winding miles I drove
To look deep her tender Buddhist -
Eyes
“If a thousand set ourselves
on fire”, I said, “they will not even -
Pause”
“ I know,” she said, broken, open
our hearts, our gaze, for eternity contained
agony of children screams, Oceans of the Future-
Dead
Chenae /10/28/07
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Permalink Reply by Passang on
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Yeah Ms Chenae has a vast real life experiences because she was there caring for many needy people, as rightly said she has taken care of victims of rape, abuse, violence, death and dying etc... her 25 years of service to mankind must be deeply appreciated here in this peace column and I'm just a another follower of her since I also practice nursing and wanna reach to those who is in need of my service to alleviate pain and suffering from their life and possibly share peace with the death and dyings. Good luck Chenae for your future endeavours...
Chenae said:The Dalai Lama says that it is very important to not confuse the Action with the Actor.We most oppose wrong action but if we become overwhelmed with hatred for the Actor we act only in the short term and become paralyzed.
How to keep our eyes wide open, our hearts wide open, and not become overwhelmed with the very real horror that many of our fellow beings are living is the first question. Many turn away. How do we include those who would kill us? But the Table of Peace can not just include those with who we agree.
I recieved a letter on the first day I joined this site from a man in Gaza who h ad just been held at a check point for 4 hours.he asked what I had done today to end this terrible occupation. I had to tell him I had done no direct action.
My life is very difficult at the moment. But I try to ground each day in Gratitude. I do not frame my day around where I can find fresh water. Many in this world are risking rape and murder to just obtain water to live.
As a Registered Nurse for many years, I do know the first hand reality of senseless violent death and pain. I have been covered in blood. I have cared for tortured children. But a recent reminder of the limitations of my experience living in the US was when, on the Fourth of July, I heard and daw fireworks. I assumed they were fireworks, I did not react with the fear of those who live in places where such sounds mean death. Years ago, a Vietnamese friend of mine dove screaming, trying to protect her children at the same sounds.
We walk in many different worlds, but we are all connected. We must try not to strike at those who would be our allies. Guilt and shame will only cause people to close. I often want to run screaming in the street, sreaming for the dead and the dying. But that would only help release my personal pain and not help them.
Below I offer you a poem I wrote last year. It talks of despair, but I hope helps to connect us so we can all coninue, enlarged, to change this world.
Bless
Chenae
Iraq Forecast Recalled
Tonight recalls the saddest day
The day before this -
War
Blood filled clouds disguised
as just a mountain sunny -
Day
Maddened by a future posed
A storm of grief, the morn -
Forecast
One hundred winding miles I drove
To look deep her tender Buddhist -
Eyes
“If a thousand set ourselves
on fire”, I said, “they will not even -
Pause”
“ I know,” she said, broken, open
our hearts, our gaze, for eternity contained
agony of children screams, Oceans of the Future-
Dead
Chenae /10/28/07
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Dear Passang and Chenae
Thank you for adding the layer of care that connect and vitalize our humanity the more Peace then more resources to do more in this universal human care, more till it be needed less.
peace
Neri
Passang said:Yeah Ms Chenae has a vast real life experiences because she was there caring for many needy people, as rightly said she has taken care of victims of rape, abuse, violence, death and dying etc... her 25 years of service to mankind must be deeply appreciated here in this peace column and I'm just a another follower of her since I also practice nursing and wanna reach to those who is in need of my service to alleviate pain and suffering from their life and possibly share peace with the death and dyings. Good luck Chenae for your future endeavours...
Chenae said:The Dalai Lama says that it is very important to not confuse the Action with the Actor.We most oppose wrong action but if we become overwhelmed with hatred for the Actor we act only in the short term and become paralyzed.
How to keep our eyes wide open, our hearts wide open, and not become overwhelmed with the very real horror that many of our fellow beings are living is the first question. Many turn away. How do we include those who would kill us? But the Table of Peace can not just include those with who we agree.
I recieved a letter on the first day I joined this site from a man in Gaza who h ad just been held at a check point for 4 hours.he asked what I had done today to end this terrible occupation. I had to tell him I had done no direct action.
My life is very difficult at the moment. But I try to ground each day in Gratitude. I do not frame my day around where I can find fresh water. Many in this world are risking rape and murder to just obtain water to live.
As a Registered Nurse for many years, I do know the first hand reality of senseless violent death and pain. I have been covered in blood. I have cared for tortured children. But a recent reminder of the limitations of my experience living in the US was when, on the Fourth of July, I heard and daw fireworks. I assumed they were fireworks, I did not react with the fear of those who live in places where such sounds mean death. Years ago, a Vietnamese friend of mine dove screaming, trying to protect her children at the same sounds.
We walk in many different worlds, but we are all connected. We must try not to strike at those who would be our allies. Guilt and shame will only cause people to close. I often want to run screaming in the street, sreaming for the dead and the dying. But that would only help release my personal pain and not help them.
Below I offer you a poem I wrote last year. It talks of despair, but I hope helps to connect us so we can all coninue, enlarged, to change this world.
Bless
Chenae
Iraq Forecast Recalled
Tonight recalls the saddest day
The day before this -
War
Blood filled clouds disguised
as just a mountain sunny -
Day
Maddened by a future posed
A storm of grief, the morn -
Forecast
One hundred winding miles I drove
To look deep her tender Buddhist -
Eyes
“If a thousand set ourselves
on fire”, I said, “they will not even -
Pause”
“ I know,” she said, broken, open
our hearts, our gaze, for eternity contained
agony of children screams, Oceans of the Future-
Dead
Chenae /10/28/07
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