Is the 'Geneva Initiative" (Accord) the way forward? - iPeace.us2024-03-29T01:35:43Zhttps://ipeace.us/forum/topics/is-the-geneva-initiative?commentId=2217368%3AComment%3A1237744&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSorry guys, I have a made mis…tag:ipeace.us,2009-02-21:2217368:Comment:12377642009-02-21T12:49:28.584ZShimrithttps://ipeace.us/profile/Simrit
Sorry guys, I have a made mistake in the second line from above. "Israel was not established by the Arabs, but by the UN". The Arabs want to eradicate Israel In order to establish en Islamic empire in the Middle East.
Sorry guys, I have a made mistake in the second line from above. "Israel was not established by the Arabs, but by the UN". The Arabs want to eradicate Israel In order to establish en Islamic empire in the Middle East. Noam Chomsky is an antisemite…tag:ipeace.us,2009-02-21:2217368:Comment:12377442009-02-21T12:42:44.083ZShimrithttps://ipeace.us/profile/Simrit
Noam Chomsky is an antisemite. Even though he is a Jew. No one takes him seriously apart, off course, the antisemites.
Noam Chomsky is an antisemite. Even though he is a Jew. No one takes him seriously apart, off course, the antisemites. i would like to remind you of…tag:ipeace.us,2009-02-06:2217368:Comment:11500192009-02-06T13:53:22.941Zbiba zimmermannhttps://ipeace.us/profile/bibazimmermann
i would like to remind you of war in yougoslawia,where 8000!!!!! moslems were killed,in front of u.n. troops.those moslems were not radical,not even islamists.i am not a moslem,i am cristian,and i remember from history,what we did .there are also cristian in china,beeing in jail for their faith,so,at the end,no one is whitout spots,we all have dirt under our nails.if we are able to confess our sins,ask for forgivness and reach out of our comfortzone,we can have peace.
i would like to remind you of war in yougoslawia,where 8000!!!!! moslems were killed,in front of u.n. troops.those moslems were not radical,not even islamists.i am not a moslem,i am cristian,and i remember from history,what we did .there are also cristian in china,beeing in jail for their faith,so,at the end,no one is whitout spots,we all have dirt under our nails.if we are able to confess our sins,ask for forgivness and reach out of our comfortzone,we can have peace. This is a good plan and needs…tag:ipeace.us,2009-02-05:2217368:Comment:11458302009-02-05T14:47:01.711ZJohn Fisherhttps://ipeace.us/xn/detail/u_3kymmwf1kzqjw
This is a good plan and needs to be implemented by Israel as soon as possible even if Israel has to implement it unilaterally.
This is a good plan and needs to be implemented by Israel as soon as possible even if Israel has to implement it unilaterally. First of all, Geneva cannot p…tag:ipeace.us,2009-02-03:2217368:Comment:11379952009-02-03T23:58:58.281ZShimrithttps://ipeace.us/profile/Simrit
First of all, Geneva cannot plan anything for Israel. Second, there is no conflict between Israel and Palestine. There is a fundamental war against Israel since its establishment by the Arabs. The Arab countries have enough land to occupy milions of palestinians and many more. But their intention is to eradicate Israel. Why build a new state on Israeli land? little iny Israel 20,330 km², the Arab world land is 12.9 million km² . Can you see the difference?<br />
Since when Jerusalem is holy to the…
First of all, Geneva cannot plan anything for Israel. Second, there is no conflict between Israel and Palestine. There is a fundamental war against Israel since its establishment by the Arabs. The Arab countries have enough land to occupy milions of palestinians and many more. But their intention is to eradicate Israel. Why build a new state on Israeli land? little iny Israel 20,330 km², the Arab world land is 12.9 million km² . Can you see the difference?<br />
Since when Jerusalem is holy to the Muslims? Jerusalem never mentioned in the Quran even once, Mecca and Medina yes. The Arabs want to creat an Arabic/muslim peninsula in the middle east but unfortunately for them Israel is in the way. So the only way to solve this is to eradicate Israel through the establishment of a new borne "nation" called Palestinins. Never was a nation called Palestinians. Palestine got her name from the Romans, the Real name of this tiny country was called Judia. Judia, means Jewish state. It is no secret that Muslims don't like Jews or Christians. over 200 millions christians are persecuted in muslim countries, maybe Geneva wants to initiate some peace plan between them? maybe peace plan for the Tibetians whom China took their land from them without a single cry from Geneva, America or you? or maybe the persecuted people of Darfur? or maybe the children, the human shield that Hamas and Hizbualla use. Why single out Israel? Israel didn't ask for a wars they were imposed on her. It is time to search for the truth and leave Israel to live peacfully. Don't just follow the biased media like the BBc, CNN etc. The media is very manipulative. Did you ask yourself how come you hear about Israel and Israel alone almost every day? don't you think that there is some political agenda in the background? I wish good luck to this init…tag:ipeace.us,2009-02-02:2217368:Comment:11325742009-02-02T20:50:32.418ZDenis Railhttps://ipeace.us/profile/DenisRail
I wish good luck to this initiative, though it all lies on Israël will.<br />
As shown in this <a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21788.htm">thorough study (from Noam Chomsky</a> of the facts until now, the prospect of a political settlement seems to be Israël's worst nightmare, to be avoided by any means.<br />
But things may change. Maybe Israël is ready, maybe they got to the point where nothing more can be gained over Palestians with violence. Maybe the Obama effect can extend up…
I wish good luck to this initiative, though it all lies on Israël will.<br />
As shown in this <a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21788.htm">thorough study (from Noam Chomsky</a> of the facts until now, the prospect of a political settlement seems to be Israël's worst nightmare, to be avoided by any means.<br />
But things may change. Maybe Israël is ready, maybe they got to the point where nothing more can be gained over Palestians with violence. Maybe the Obama effect can extend up to there... Maybe... Let's hope. This certainly merits support…tag:ipeace.us,2009-01-30:2217368:Comment:11154682009-01-30T23:39:38.878ZRamseyhttps://ipeace.us/profile/Ramsey99
This certainly merits support and serious consideration. May I raise a question concerning the line:<br />
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"The implementation of the Israel Option shall be at the Israeli sovereign discretion."<br />
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Does this mean that Israel could, theoritically, refuse to allow any refugees to settle in Israel? Furthermore, there also needs to be guarantee of full equality of rights of all residents in Israel, so no more barriers to Palestinians using certain roads, hospitals, schools, owning land or whatever.<br />
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No…
This certainly merits support and serious consideration. May I raise a question concerning the line:<br />
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"The implementation of the Israel Option shall be at the Israeli sovereign discretion."<br />
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Does this mean that Israel could, theoritically, refuse to allow any refugees to settle in Israel? Furthermore, there also needs to be guarantee of full equality of rights of all residents in Israel, so no more barriers to Palestinians using certain roads, hospitals, schools, owning land or whatever.<br />
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No mention is made of total freedom to move within each state, apart from the reference in the context of Jerusalem. Does this mean that there could still be checkpoints with Palestinians waiting in long queues?<br />
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Another concern lies in the multinational force, responsible for protecting the territorial integrity of the state of Palestine. This provision would have greater credibility if it also catered for the eventuality of a failure, no matter how isolated. i.e. if Palestinian territory were attacked, who would be responsible for repairing any damage, funding such repair as well as the payment of any associated compensation?<br />
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The same question pertains to the eventuality of a failure to "prevent the entry of weapons or any materials into Palestine that are in contravention of the provisions of this agreement" resulting in an attack on Israel.<br />
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In essence, I suggest such an agreement could be considered as an "insurance policy", so the "insurers" and "underwriters" need to be specified, as well as the means of making any "claim" under that "policy". It could be viewed that any damage caused by an attack by one side on the other is partly the responsibility of the multinational force, as it represents a failure on their part in performing their duty.<br />
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This is absolutely vital in ensuring that any subsequent act of aggression does not result in another escalation of violence, reprisals, extra-judiciary executions, etc.<br />
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I must also confess to being alarmed by the line:<br />
"Israel will be entitled to use Palestinian sovereign airspace for training purposes within limits under the supervision of the international force."<br />
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Why is this entitlement necessary at all? This could be a recipe for disaster. There have been instances of members of the IDF taking the law into their own hands in the past. The possibility, no matter how slim, of an Isareli Airforce pilot 'on training' in Palestinian airspace carrying out an attack, is surely too hazardous to risk? David like to send all my goo…tag:ipeace.us,2009-01-30:2217368:Comment:11144132009-01-30T20:45:23.571ZSusmita Baruahttps://ipeace.us/profile/SusmitaBarua
David like to send all my goodwill and blessings behind this initiative. I do not know all the socio-economics behind the geopolitics in the middle east. After reading the article <a href="http://seek2know.gaia.com/blog/2007/1/green_alert_for_fearless_peace">War is a racket</a>, i do not see any conflict or war the same way. Wish i had some insight to share. I do in my blog.<br />
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Peace
David like to send all my goodwill and blessings behind this initiative. I do not know all the socio-economics behind the geopolitics in the middle east. After reading the article <a href="http://seek2know.gaia.com/blog/2007/1/green_alert_for_fearless_peace">War is a racket</a>, i do not see any conflict or war the same way. Wish i had some insight to share. I do in my blog.<br />
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Peace To bad an epidemic of brother…tag:ipeace.us,2009-01-30:2217368:Comment:11129622009-01-30T16:23:38.786ZWayne Elkinhttps://ipeace.us/profile/WayneElkin
To bad an epidemic of brotherly love doesn't infect the middle east and the rest of the planet. Until the day we must hammer out agreements and try to live up to them. What is proposed appears work able. How do we fit in. Are we ready yet to pool our ipeace collective voice?
To bad an epidemic of brotherly love doesn't infect the middle east and the rest of the planet. Until the day we must hammer out agreements and try to live up to them. What is proposed appears work able. How do we fit in. Are we ready yet to pool our ipeace collective voice? Star of David shines througho…tag:ipeace.us,2009-01-30:2217368:Comment:11118612009-01-30T12:55:28.892ZClicia Pavanhttps://ipeace.us/profile/CliciaPavan
Star of David shines throughout humanity It is the spirituality is contrasting with the material,violence against non-violence, diaspora x union, the love .. x odio Indeed evil is in the heart of man, not outside dele.Portanto the real change occurs only when the world see the man who is part of a much larger context .. and see how their brothers, and oh yes there will be change `` PEACE<br />
Peace be with you<br />
Clicia Pavan
Star of David shines throughout humanity It is the spirituality is contrasting with the material,violence against non-violence, diaspora x union, the love .. x odio Indeed evil is in the heart of man, not outside dele.Portanto the real change occurs only when the world see the man who is part of a much larger context .. and see how their brothers, and oh yes there will be change `` PEACE<br />
Peace be with you<br />
Clicia Pavan