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Comment by Grete Soleng on April 2, 2009 at 1:03pm

I think Israel is even more scary now with Netanyahu and Lieberman in the government,so I have this interior fear for the Palestine people. Lieberman is a BIG racist and Netanyahu has always said that he`s against a 2 state solution. They are both giving me gooseflesh................

Comment by luisella valeri on April 2, 2009 at 12:58pm

I try to do my town, Genova twin with Gaza. If we all try this (and also for Cisgiordania), after, perhapes, we can try to opposite with our Government or Town against every occupation, every violence, every Human Rights violed.
We must try all we peace citizen out of Israel (they cannot, but we can consider them as honoured citizen of our town).
Smiles Luisella

Comment by Mahmood Sairally on April 2, 2009 at 12:46pm

Hearing the new Foreign Affairs Minister of Israel make me shudder, what can we do to stop him? Nitanyahu has got his hands tied or is he as fanatic as this East European immigrant?.

Comment by HAMADA on April 2, 2009 at 12:17pm

HIIIIII

Comment by Grete Soleng on March 29, 2009 at 1:58pm

I do very much believe in free speech for everybody,so let her speak. But she has some arguments that`s soooo wrong and I really don`t understand how some people can make up things like this.
Marianne,I think you should buy yourself a historybook and start reading the truth.It makes me sick reading what you are writing.

Comment by Mahmood Sairally on March 29, 2009 at 1:46pm

My dear Grete,

How right are you. I am glad that someone else, specially you who has seen the state in which the Palestinians whose properties were robbed and sent in refugee camps live and have lived since then.
The lady 's argument is illogical and that's it. She is causing a lot of bad feelings and I think David or someone from the administration should stop her. There should be freedom of speech but not such r........

Comment by Grete Soleng on March 29, 2009 at 3:08am

I really don`t understand why you keep saying that the Palestinian can move to other countries in the middle east. Why should they? They are living in the country they have been living in for ever. Would you go if somebody told you to move to Belgium or France????There`s no logic in your arguments.

Comment by Marianne de Zwart on March 24, 2009 at 3:25pm

The arguments I tell are known in The Netherlands. They aren't infantile. If you degraduate my arguments, there is no dialogue possible, because you aren;t listening and taking the dialogue and what is playing in the other persons seriously. You are going away from the dialogue.
By understanding what is in the mind and heart of the people considered in this matter we can find a way of comprehension and solution.
The Jews coming from Africa going to Israël came from Ethiopië. That was after the WW II.

Comment by Mahmood Sairally on March 24, 2009 at 12:10pm

The Africans of Jewish faith were never persecuted, I know it better than someone from the Netherland. My country in Africa welcomed the East Europeans of jewish faith with their children as refugees during the Second World War and those still alive, their children and grand children and so on still remember it with gratitude.

Israel is not only for those of Jewish faith but for everyone, whatever their religion, born there. Will you, please, for sake of a peaceful entente, stop spreading infantile arguments.

Comment by Marianne de Zwart on March 24, 2009 at 3:29am

When having a dialogue, one has to take all points of view in account. The reason of existence of Israël is to give a home to the Jews, where they are not prosecuted by anti-semitism. The Jews are a population. To give room to new coming peoplei9n the fifties and sixties was because of refugees coming from Africa and Russia, where they were getting massacred again. Now these people had a home to go to and that was Israël. So they flight to Israël. That were many thousands of people. who needed to be supported in their needs for life. If they would stay in the countries , where they came from, they would be killed. So it was urgent to help them. They formed the new population of Israël and they were needed there to give Israël more body, to develop the country.
That is the reason of the existence of Israël.
That cannot be denied in any dialogue. The fear to be massacred again is still existing in the people of Israël and in Jews all over the world.
This is the drive for the Jews to keep Israël for the Jews. That is a very important matter in any dialogue.
The Palestinians had to go away to give room to the new Israëli's and now they want their own place to live. Anger is their drive. They don't need to have the fear to be prosecuted by being islamitic, because there are a lot of islamitic countries all over the world. and they are supported by these countries.
The Jews are supported by the USA and the EU, but the EU support also the Palestinians. There is given support from th Dutch gouvernment to Palestinians in Gaza to grow flowers to sell. That was big business.

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