We cannot always "shine"

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But that`s OK.. Admitting our sorrow and grief is a valuable step to a better world of honesty and truth

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Are these ”happy” assemblies, which many networks represent a risk for exclusion?

Yes… I think so. What happens, for example when a sadly past catch up with you or you suffer serious illness or grief?
Are you staying here than? To say what? I see no forum for them since the theory doesn’t exist. The theory of people in pain.
No since the theory is that we are all chosen our own happiness and by thinking in the right way, whatever happens we will stay happy and feeling blessed. But already on my short time on these networks I have met many who belonged to those who wanted to “shine” and did so and also non egotistically shared their belief with others.

That’s beautiful. But when the “Sorrow” trip a person up, and they cannot shine they stop writing. Many have send me letters so I know that. Now when they are needed us the most they do not stay so we can comfort them. That’s just too sad. I do feel for all these that thought that there only mission in life was to share the light and when they got caught by the shadows they feel ashamed instead of asking for our help. We do not even notice they are gone. New ”believers” will come and replace them.

This is the weakest link in the "shine and light" theory or shall I say religion. There is no place for sadness and sorrow. So that means when your light is gone you have to go too. Make me cry but also frustrated. As long as their spiritual battery keeps them shining they will be here but when it is spent they have to face their own darkness without a ray of light from us, the others.

Many people ought to use their own light to lighten up there own dark shadows instead of getting burned out by giving away ”borrowed ” rays of light. That doest benefit the peace in the world.

No... we must accept that there are dark periods in our lives and we must create space for these feelings so we who still has some energy in our batteries can shine for them who need it the most.
These Networks are not a church where we have to say ”Amen”. These fantastic opportunities to come together so many people must allow us to have different opinions and place for everyone. To learn understanding and broaden our horizons That will make us grow.
It must be ”high ceilings” in any ”faith” who want to survive.

We must search to enclose all not exclude. By making people understand that it is OK, as in this case, to stay in a shiny and brightening ”world” even if your own personal life is a hell.

We do understand. Or don’t we?

I have made this group for all of us who are working for a good purpose.; The peace
But dare to admit that life can be a terrible mess where we need the light of others because our own batteries are exhausted. and that is OK. We do not have to leave this "world" we just need ears to listen and eyes that can see.
After all we are just human *smile*

So welcome to the imperfect group that I am proud to belong to *smile*

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Comment by Thomas T. Panto on April 13, 2009 at 4:36pm: I know that life is a sacrifice we all make for the future of this Evolving Creation.
When a tree falls, I cry in celebration of it's Life and it's mission.

Some may call it greed to hope to someday be worthy of your tears, and your gratitude,
I call it Life.

Comment by gunilla caisson on April 13, 2009 at 4:16pm: Louise I do agree in every word you wrote. And I`m glad to hear that I`m not alone with these thoughts. Honestly I have felt a bit lonely and many times I have thought; What am I doing here? What can I offer those who seems to have got it all?
But I`m glad I stayed so many coming to this group show we are not alone Louise...*smile*
Your comment warmed my heart

Comment by gunilla caisson on April 13, 2009 at 4:04pm: Yes Tammy you said it so well "When we can't muster up the strength to shine, we give others the gift of helping " That`s exactly how I meant. Thank you::

Comment by gunilla caisson on April 13, 2009 at 3:56pm: To Rakesh thanks for your words
What you said about the time not being the same for everyone and so on...I did so appreciate .. That expression will stay with me *smile*
It explains so much.. So thanks again

Comment by gunilla caisson on April 13, 2009 at 3:44pm: To Anders
Yes about the name. I`m not so good at nuances in English *smile*
But "can" means here I should maybe like to "shine"but since I´m devastated of grief i just cannot So is that really a wrong expression?
I should like some more opinions about that. I can always change the name later.

Now to this my expression "human" , maybe we here also have an example of my bad understandings of the value in English words *smile*
For me a human being is a spiritual creature . If not his not human to me
Have I totally mixed this up Anders? :)
But what you said about the "Jante Law" there is something that not is benefiting our growth that`s for sure *smile*

" . But .. if we believe it´s possible .. the outcome will be possible"
This is what scares me in the context when we are talking about personal grief and things like that, What happen if I believed it was possible but no positive outcome followed. How do I feel than? More miserable then ever i guess.
Of course we must try to think positive that will help in many contexts. But on a more personal level we must allow ourselves to also be sad and down sometimes without feeling like failures.

Just my reflections *smile*
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Comment by Frank DeLoach on April 13, 2009 at 3:27pm: I have learned much from the school of hard knocks we all go through in life and If I can help others from the lessons I learned in every area of my life by sharing what I have learned then my life on earth will not be in vain. Then I can finish my course, enter into the very presence of our Heavenly Father, our Lord Jesus Christ, and all the host of heaven not by what I have done, but by his grace, mercy and loving kindness alone and yet have something to show for his glory in my life. There is nothing in life more precious than that.
I am of all people most blessed!
Dare to find out what really matters in life and to worry less about things that don’t.

Comment by bunny on April 13, 2009 at 3:08pm: im happy to be part of this group.

Comment by gunilla caisson on April 13, 2009 at 3:01pm: Thank you Diana for sharing your great lost with us. Losing a child, must be the biggest pain of them all and none who hasn`t been there will never totally understand. And as you say their is a time for everything and mourning must take the time needed. Only those who grieve can determine the duration

Thanks again Diana and my deepest sympathy

Comment by gunilla caisson on April 13, 2009 at 2:45pm: To uriel I did not quite understand what you tried to say. of course we all want to live in peace with ourselves That`s the optimal goal and the basic for all peace. But we have to dare to admit that there are days when are inner balance are not so balanced as it ought to be. Something in life has hap pend and upset the equilibrium.
That must be OK to admit that the scales of balance are not always balanced. And that no one have to be ashamed for that. Since this is just a proof of that we are, thinking and feeling human beings

Comment by Victoria Munson-Engelkes on April 13, 2009 at 2:26pm: Thank you for creating this discussion page.Yes, there are many groups that will not acknowledge someone feeling sad or troubled.My question is then, where is the Compassion and unconditional Love? I have always read how loving the Pleiadians are.Yet, some of the ones I have met have been everything BUT loving. I don't know what to believe or think anymore and my heart hurts deeply.Maybe I am too willing to believe there are mostly good people in the Universe.