We cannot always "shine"

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But that`s OK.. Admitting our sorrow and grief is a valuable step to a better world of honesty and truth

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Are these ”happy” assemblies, which many networks represent a risk for exclusion?

Yes… I think so. What happens, for example when a sadly past catch up with you or you suffer serious illness or grief?
Are you staying here than? To say what? I see no forum for them since the theory doesn’t exist. The theory of people in pain.
No since the theory is that we are all chosen our own happiness and by thinking in the right way, whatever happens we will stay happy and feeling blessed. But already on my short time on these networks I have met many who belonged to those who wanted to “shine” and did so and also non egotistically shared their belief with others.

That’s beautiful. But when the “Sorrow” trip a person up, and they cannot shine they stop writing. Many have send me letters so I know that. Now when they are needed us the most they do not stay so we can comfort them. That’s just too sad. I do feel for all these that thought that there only mission in life was to share the light and when they got caught by the shadows they feel ashamed instead of asking for our help. We do not even notice they are gone. New ”believers” will come and replace them.

This is the weakest link in the "shine and light" theory or shall I say religion. There is no place for sadness and sorrow. So that means when your light is gone you have to go too. Make me cry but also frustrated. As long as their spiritual battery keeps them shining they will be here but when it is spent they have to face their own darkness without a ray of light from us, the others.

Many people ought to use their own light to lighten up there own dark shadows instead of getting burned out by giving away ”borrowed ” rays of light. That doest benefit the peace in the world.

No... we must accept that there are dark periods in our lives and we must create space for these feelings so we who still has some energy in our batteries can shine for them who need it the most.
These Networks are not a church where we have to say ”Amen”. These fantastic opportunities to come together so many people must allow us to have different opinions and place for everyone. To learn understanding and broaden our horizons That will make us grow.
It must be ”high ceilings” in any ”faith” who want to survive.

We must search to enclose all not exclude. By making people understand that it is OK, as in this case, to stay in a shiny and brightening ”world” even if your own personal life is a hell.

We do understand. Or don’t we?

I have made this group for all of us who are working for a good purpose.; The peace
But dare to admit that life can be a terrible mess where we need the light of others because our own batteries are exhausted. and that is OK. We do not have to leave this "world" we just need ears to listen and eyes that can see.
After all we are just human *smile*

So welcome to the imperfect group that I am proud to belong to *smile*

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Comment by gunilla caisson on April 13, 2009 at 2:14pm: When I turned on my computer today and went here. I get so happy to see you all here. I`m sure I was "shining" :)
I thought I should have to delete my group today. How wrong I was... and I almost felt a bit ashamed for not believing enough., not in me and not in you. I`m sorry for that. Have to work with that...*smile*

SO ..

So glad you are here.
And when the days are grey, clouds obscuring the sun
and the laughter is blocked . We kan meet here and
and recharge our batteries.
We should be each other's life-giving power

That what friends are for *smile*

Once again a warm welcome to each one of you/Gunilla

Comment by Diana on April 13, 2009 at 1:26pm: And by the way Gunilla thanks again for the invitation to join this group.

Comment by Uriel on April 13, 2009 at 1:25pm: Hello, I'm here to speak to you about… Peace.
Not peace between people, and neither among countries, but with the only person we have no choice but to live with until the end of our lives, the same person who is sitting in you chair. Look down for a moment, recognize the feet? The hands? Yes yes, with yourselves.
My biggest dream since I can remember myself was to live in peace with myself. To know him wide and open and to know even better to pass it on so other people could also live in peace and harmony with themselves, to live in a real true peace with all those parts in ourselves that we've not yet come to accept. It is not an obligation to accept them; it is also not an obligation to understand and to agree with them. Most chances you will not know, understand and accept all the different parts in you until the end of your lives. Does it mean we cannot live in peace with them? Does it mean that we cannot just accept that they are there and that they are not going anywhere even though we so don't agree with them? Even though we so don't desire their company? Think about it for a moment with yourselves, if you didn't have the option in any way to change those parts in you you don't agree, understand or accept, wouldn't you want any way to live your lives in peace? Relaxed? Calm? Why, isn't that what we all want? So let me put it on the table for you – even if you'll work on yourselves all your lives, go through workshops, learn, study, know more or less, or just live your lives and learn from experience, even if you will work on it day and night, every free moment you have (give or take) and put it in front of you as a goal, even if you'll live all your lives like this, you'll never, absolutely never, know and learn to understand every little bit within you. Does that mean you cannot live in peace with yourselves?

It's ok, You can breathe. Change, happens for itself.

Comment by Diana on April 13, 2009 at 1:25pm: I really appretiate this group, we really need to get deep into our souls in order to continue, each one of us has a pain inside him, which is different from one to another what is a big sorrow for me may be small for the other, what I can stand the other may not, I will give a good example from my personal experience and my personal reality, I lost a 3 months baby, she was a girl, was born in the hospital, she lived for three months but she decided to leave, I felt the whole world has to cry for her, or maybe to cry with me, I was surprised, they didn't even know about her death, years after years I didn't stop talking about her, until it became boring for every one, for them she is only 3 months, and for me she is my baby, my dream to be a mother, they tried to make it easy for me saying what about this or that woman that lost her teenager, what about that woman who burried 3 martyrs, you know at that time it didn't mean a lot for me, I don't care of the others pain (now truly I car) my pain is much more deeper, now I had the time to treat this pain, the time helped me realize that it is not the end of the world, everything has to take it's time, no one can change anything in a minute or in one word.
This what came up to my mind right now

Comment by Rakesh Kumar Singh on April 13, 2009 at 1:04pm: First thanks to Krystyna P. MY NET FRIEND a dedicated human for the good purpose and inviting me to join this groupand secondly i ppreciate Gunilla for coming out with the true feelings in human walk of life...TIME IS NEVER THE SAME FOR ANYONE ALWAYS.in times of ups and down its the true human material which is tested is the basis for many comes amd goes...

Comment by Tammy Hollis on April 13, 2009 at 12:54pm: This was an idea that came from such warmth and compassion. I do believe that we have a choice in how we feel/react to life's circumstances but I also believe that there is a time to feel the healing power of grief. When we can't muster up the strength to shine, we give others the gift of helping us, consoling us, offering us their experience and hope. "No matter how far down the scale we have gong, we will see how our experience can benefit others." This is a quote from the book, "Alcoholics Anonymous" but can apply to anyone.

Thank you Krystyna.

Peace and warmth to all.

Comment by ShAshi DhaR on April 13, 2009 at 11:37am: Light and shade are mutually complementary as much as heat and cold; the relative, pairs of opposites, the duality of existence (or illusion?) is part of the grand program of evolution. Every experience is in the mind of the beholder, it all depends on how one accepts life; sorrow and happiness being the two sides of the same coin. Thanks to you Krystyna for the invite to a group that can elevate many a mundane thought to peaks of sublime reality.

Comment by jose on April 13, 2009 at 11:03am: Very glad to joining the group, We canot always Shine

Comment by Inderias Dominic Bhatti on April 13, 2009 at 8:12am: Dear Gunilla Caisson,

Peace and Blessings!!!

Excellent points on shadows and lights. A being peace activist I feel that the economic disparities; rejection; exclusion; hatred; oppression; violence; opportunities’ apathy; neighborhood subjection and …………

All these shadows sip our light.

I have also undergone through these life realities.

So may I humbly ask you the possibilities to start with some support mechanism for such people in Pakistan and so to extend our light with them.

Looking forward your words,

In Peace and blessings, I am,

Inderias Dominic Bhatti,
Lahore,
PAKISTAN.

Comment by Abelia on April 13, 2009 at 5:40am: Thank you Gunilla for the welcome!...We are following you through shadows and lights!=...;-)) Love, Abelia